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Thursday, 27 December 2012

A Rose By Any Other Name

Posted on 20:33 by Unknown
So, if you're a Christian, does that make you an Egyptian pagan?


I'm told some of the facts in the below image aren't accurate, but the point remains the same: the Christian's Jesus is a mythical figure based off of earlier pagan gods.



And then there's the Mithrans...

http://www.theworld.org/2012/12/celebrating-the-mysterious-ancient-cult-of-mithras-in-rome

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Sunday, 16 December 2012

Lauren Blocked Me for Being a Troll

Posted on 21:36 by Unknown
Somehow I was labeled an internet "Troll" by Lauren after daring to post on one of his anti-gun Google+ posts that the real issue with Friday's massacre isn't that people have guns, it's the people themselves that are dangerous. He deleted my comment and then commented that no "NRA propaganda" will be allowed in his stream. I then posted a comment asking why my post was deleted then, since I did not mention the NRA (I actually dislike the NRA) but merely stated it's people who go about shooting others, not guns themselves. He then deleted my comment again and said he blocked me.

I'm getting really fed up with with internet, lately. Especially Google+. I have "known" Lauren for years. We have talked many time about politics, technology and current events. Now that I think about it, he never comments on anyone else's posts but his own and that's after someone comments on his.

Regardless, how is trying to have a discussion about a subject "trolling?" I dislike the NRA. I dislike their lobbying and their agenda. I have told them so when they tried to recruit me (I am a white, gun owning veteran, after all) and I have publicly told others, both in person and social media.

Just because I happen to believe the root cause of gun violence isn't the guns themselves doesn't mean I agree or support the NRA. I believe the root cause of any violence is much deeper than an individual action or the tool used to bring about that action. In gun violence, obviously it's a gun. However, a gun didn't shoot itself; a gun didn't drive itself to a school; a gun didn't target innocent children and teachers and a gun didn't load and re-load itself.

A person did.

But apparently that opinion will label someone a "troll" and be block-worthy. Especially by someone whom I've been connected and friendly with for (three?) years.



Lauren Weinstein

9:55 PM  -  Public
"Yet recent efforts by the police chief and other town leaders to gain some control over the shooting and the weaponry turned into a tumultuous civic fight, with traditional hunters and discreet gun owners opposed by assault weapon enthusiasts, and a modest tolerance for bearing arms competing with the staunch views of a gun industry trade association, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which has made Newtown its home."
In Newtown, Conn., a Stiff Resistance to Gun Restrictions »
The legislative battle in Newtown, Conn., shows how the slightest attempts to impose restrictions on guns can run into withering resistance, made more pointed by the escalation in firepower.
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Steven Solomon9:57 PM
Memo
Fr: The National Affairs Office
To: The Nation
Re: A Sane Policy on Gun Ownership
Dt: 12/16/2012

Here’s how a scheme would work to benefit our citizens with a rational manner of controlling fire arms without outlawing them. All of the following is in keeping with historical and constitutional precedents dating to the time of our nation’s founding.

1: All weapons must only be legally purchased with a license to own granted after training in fire arms use and safety and determination of the licensee’s physical and mental ability to use them safely.

2: All buyers must be insured prior to purchase and cannot then be registered without proof of insurance.

3: All sellers of fire arms are required to be licensed, insured, and obligated to report all sales to “The Federal Agency of Fire Arms Control” which shall maintain a database to be shared with local law enforcement.

4: Rapid fire (aka assault weapons) are prohibited from personal use outside of licensed ranges and must be stored in licensed armories.

5: Sales of ammunition in amounts greater than nine rounds per clip or belt are prohibited.

6: Armor penetrating rounds are prohibited, as are explosive rounds.

7: All of the above shall be applied across all States, Commonwealths, Possessions and Territories of the Union.

By the way, the most secure back stop against the insanity that has been going on is in requiring insurance on guns and owners. I don’t have a lot of nice things to say about insurance companies, but they do not bet against themselves.
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Kelly Sullivan10:01 PM
I never do understand this. Everyone I know with guns is usually the first to say that they're also upset with the idea of children getting killed. You'd think that's at least a starting point.

Lauren Weinstein10:06 PM
NRA propaganda platitudes will be deleted.

Jim Douglas10:07 PM
Politicians beg lobbyists for money on a daily basis; they don't necessarily talk to constituents on a daily basis.  But (speaking of lobbyists), somebody is maintaining a low profile this weekend. https://twitter.com/NRA

Heidi C.10:12 PM
Good to see resistence in Connecticut!
It shows they can think for themselves!

Lauren Weinstein10:13 PM
NRA propaganda troll deleted and blocked.  Associated comments removed for thread continuity.

And that comment was deleted, too? All for stating an opinion that people are the problem, not guns?
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ADDENDUM

I sent Lauren an email with a link to this above blog post and his response was just as disregarding of other points-of-view as his above post:
I am sick to death over the death of 20 beautiful children, and I am
similarly sick to death of gun apologists.  They have wiggled and
schemed and lobbied and lied and turned this country into the
laughingstock of the world.  And when someone -- anyone, I don't care who --
figures that an asinine statement like "guns don't kill people, people do"
is going to advance a discussion by one iota, my patience is gone.  There
is no room for discussion on the basics of this -- with me -- any more.
Guns shows must meet the same rules as gun stores.  Private ownership of
assault style weapons and associated ammunition systems must be restricted.
Past that, I'm open for discussion.  Since your opening comment on the
thread in question was the quintessential NRA platitude, I saw no evidence
of your being willing to accept those initial two premises.  If I'm
wrong in that assumption, do let me know.  Otherwise, I'm afraid my
capacity for continued communication, friendship, or whatever you want
to call it with you has been decimated by those tiny little bodies in
holiday clothing, riddled with bullet holes from a Bushmaster, and the
slimy faces of the gun fetishists in interviews spouting their "what we
really need is more guns!" excrement.  I'm sure there are people out there
willing to conduct endless scholarly discussions on such points.  I'm not.

Capice?
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Thursday, 29 November 2012

People Are Stupid

Posted on 10:36 by Unknown

So, this happened on Facebook and is living proof on why I don't spend a lot of time over there. Granted, I see Tea Party racists on Google+ and all over the internet, for that matter, all the time, but the level of idiocracy is overwhelming on Facebook, especially from people in Florida. Sure my answers are short and sweet until the end and that is due to replying from mobile (I rarely get on FB via desktop anymore). Please note: I went to high school with Nadine and Brian. I remember nothing from high school about Nadine except she was (and apparently still is) a bitch. I nearly didn't Friend her on FB except my policy was to befriend everyone from high school: we all change, right? At least we all should have changed by now. Brian I remember as being a class clown -- a goofy kid who didn't take anything too seriously. I don't know any reason for him to refer to President Obama as " a bastard from an whore mother" other than him being some sort of racist (which while his statement isn't inherently racist, I can think of no other reason for his hatred of the president.) Anywho, the whole scenario annoyed me and I thought I'd share.
[also, sorry for the formatting, but I copied/pasted into blogger and everytime I hit it makes one of those lines like the one above and below this sentence.]
Nadine Stewart shared Michael Savage's photo.
November 23 at 9:38am via mobile · 
  • ‎
    • Jason O N Well that's one of the stupidest things I've seen all day. All those 'millionaires' create jobs, except for Obama who is a politician and aside from personal staff politicians don't create jobs. Or, are you insinuating that politicians should create jo...See More
      November 23 at 12:34pm via mobile · Like
    • Brian Gibson Jason have you ever read about Obama? I don't consider him to be "self made"
      November 24 at 3:17am · Like
    • Jason O N Well, let's see: born to a single unwed mother, raised in a less than middle income familyand he achieved what he achieved in life without money or opportunity provided by other's achievements. That is to say, he wasn't born with a silver spoon or connections from his family.
      Monday at 5:49pm via mobile · Like
    • Brian Gibson Thank you for answering my question: no you have never read about Obama (except maybe in Entertainment Weekly or Rolling Stone)
      Monday at 7:47pm · Like · 1
    • Nadine Stewart Jason did watch the movie 2016? And then explain to me how he went to Harvard law school without having connections or on a middle class income. Jason , only company that are already in trouble can and do get bought out by other companies. There is no...See More
      Monday at 8:21pm via mobile · Like · 1
    • Jason O N Nadine, you work at a airplane company. That's not politics.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Early_life_and_career Looks like he was legacy and that's how he got in to Harvard.
      Early life and career - Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      en.wikipedia.org
      Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at Kapiʻolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospit...See More
      Monday at 9:02pm · Like · Remove Preview
    • Stephen Reiss Jason... Of course the Wikipedia article you reference is correct and true... It's on the Internet, therefor it must be true... Seriously Dude?!? Wikipedia is editable by anybody, anytime... It is up to individual "authors" to tell the "truth". that is why NO COLLEGE IN THE COUNTRY will allow Wikipedia to be cited as a legitimate information source.
      Monday at 11:47pm · Like
    • Stephen Reiss Jason... didn't I ask you a couple months back, on another post from Nadine, if you had ever read "Dreams from My Father" by Obama??
      Monday at 11:50pm · Like
    • Nadine Stewart Jason, I have worked for the Brevard election board since I was 20 yrs old , along with working at Rockwell Collins.
      Tuesday at 3:16am via mobile · Like
    • Brian Gibson It is testimony to the dumbing down of America that it raises one's perceived fitness for high office to be a bastard from an whore mother. True that Barack's childhood has more parallels to that of Hitler or Stalin than of George Washington (upbringin...See More
      Tuesday at 4:39am · Edited · Like
    • Jason O N Brian you sound like a lunatic. 
      Steven Reiss, I don't know. What I do know is this: while anyone can edit Wikepedia they instituted a bibliography feature a few years ago and editors must prove their source. Colleges and universities take internet ref
      erences all the time and there is even a proper way to cite an internet source. Would you rather take as a credible source brarackobama.com? 
      And Obama is self made. I proved my point, prove he's not.
      Tuesday at 3:29pm via mobile · Like
    • Stephen Reiss Jason... You proved nothing. You argue on the premise that "I don't have to prove anything to you... What I say is right until you prove to me that I'm wrong." The fact that colleges take Internet Sources means NOTHING to the fact that they WON'T TAKE WIKIPEDIA AS A SOURCE! And regardless of their "bibliography feature" there are still many "biography pages" that have wrong or missing sources. Next, Brian doesn't sound like a lunatic, he has stated facts and what little conjecture he has added is only because Obama has hidden his college records and lied about his past and then lied about the lies. Obama IS NOT self made. he is the product of Socialist mentors, Radical Leftist terrorists and Racist Social and Religious leaders that have carefully crafted his public persona ever since they realized they had found a charismatic "Great Black Hope" when they plucked him up off of the Harvard Commons... Wake up and put down the Kool-Aide there, my friend. You've only proved that you are regurgitating the Socialist Party line that has been spoon fed to you my The Mainstream Media in their attempt to Deify Obama... There, I Proved MY Point... Now, Prove Me Wrong!
      Tuesday at 4:05pm · Like
    • Jason O N Now you sound like a lunatic, Stephen. I rebutted Nadine's simplistic and naive post about hating rich people. Brian said he does not consider Obama to be self made. Obama was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he worked for everything he achieved in life. He's self made. Actually, everyone in the above graphic is self made except Romney.

      That all being said, I linked to a Wikipedia article outlining Obama's youth and the way he grew up. Instead of refuting the facts I provided by linking to the article you decided to counter with a logical fallacy, otherwise known as an ad hominem attack -- you attacked the source instead of the material. 

      And feel free to provide proof of your claim that " The fact that colleges take Internet Sources means NOTHING to the fact that they WON'T TAKE WIKIPEDIA AS A SOURCE!" Show proof that colleges, not one, not two, but enough colleges won't accept Wikipedia as a source for it to be considered a standard. Who's throwing around unfounded claims here?
      4 minutes ago · Like
    • Jason ON Also, you said: "I don't have to prove anything to you... What I say is right until you prove to me that I'm wrong." I made a claim and I backed it up with a link to a non-biased source. You refute the source but you do not refute the argument. Neither you nor Brian do. You're the ones who are claiming you're right until I prove you wrong. And I can also see you're an idiot. You use false logic and simplistic argument styles to make your point. Nadine think's she's an expert by association and Brian is just an idiot. 

      I will give you this, though, you didn't feel the need to attack a dead woman's reputation like Brian did (which did nothing more than prove he's an asshat), you attacked me which proves you're brave on the other side of a computer screen and nothing more.
      a few seconds ago · Like

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